Rules for Blockout championship ?

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jlp_38
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Rules for Blockout championship ?

Post by jlp_38 »

Hi, Blockout players :silly:

I\'m trying to find a system for a blockout championship. As fredjust noticed in a previous post, some players upload lots of their score and fill up the high score list. It would be great to keep only one high score per person/mode.
To do that, each player needs an account. However, I would prefer to avoid forcing player to register before uploading.

So, I thought that I can keep the online-score as it is today and add a new championship mode where players must register before uploading.
This should allow very interesting player classifications.

Any ideas,tips are welcome :cheer:
jlp_38
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Re:Rules for Blockout championship ?

Post by jlp_38 »

Here is my proposition for the championship mode:
The duration of the contests is not yet fixed.

Rules:

3 Type of games

The classic pits

- 3x3x10 FLAT
- 3x3x10 BASIC
- 5x5x10 EXTENDED

Each player can upload as many score as he wants to the
championship database, only the best one is conserved. The
score can also be uploaded to the standard database as it is
today. Uploaded replays are available to everybody.

The weird pit

- For each contest, a pit is chosen with a block set.
The block set is non standard. For instance a possible
config could be 3x5x7 with all possible flat blocks.

The secret pit

- The goal here is to fill a pit with a predefined sequence
of blocks but without gravity (as in practice mode). There is
no limit on the number of played game. For instance, a possible
configuration could be: 3x3x10 EXTENDED with 200 blocks max.
of course, all uploaded score will be kept private until the
end of the contest.

Then all scores will be normalized according to the best score
of each mode made during the contest.

Then the total score will be calculated:

(Classic pits)+(Weird pit)+(Secret pit) / 3
Where (Classic pits) = avg(3 best normalized scores)

This should give more importance to new modes and give a
chance to everybody.

Any proposition are still welcome ;)
fredjust
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Re:Rules for Blockout championship ?

Post by fredjust »

VERY GOOD this new game mode

> The block set is non standard.

So in the next version, we can find an another block set
like QUAD and THIN ?
See this page
:woohoo:

faudrait pouvoir configurer un mode via un petit fichier texte
contenant les dimensions du pit et les blocks choisis parmis tous
(ou mieux par internet en fonction du concours en cours)

> The secret pit

good idea but fill the last two line will be very hard

and another proposition : THE BEST GAME

the goal is to make the best score with the a predefined sequence of block (not illimited) it\'s the same for everybody and the same for each attempt


(faut que je retrouve les mails que je t\'avais envoyé, j\'avais mis d\'autres idées)

Post edited by: fredjust, at: 2008/01/29 15:27<br><br>Post edited by: fredjust, at: 2008/01/29 15:29
jlp_38
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Re:Rules for Blockout championship ?

Post by jlp_38 »

So in the next version, we can find an another block set
like QUAD and THIN ?


Yes but only in championship mode. (at lest for the moment)


good idea but fill the last two line will be very hard

I didn\'t explain well the rules of the secret pit ;) I did
this just before going to sleep ;)
We had in fact the same idea. The goal of the secret pit is to
make the best score with a predefined sequence identical for
everybody. The sequence is given by the server and will change
for each contest.

(faut que je retrouve les mails que je t\'avais envoyé, j\'avais mis d\'autres idées)

I think, I kept them ;) I will have a look at again.

An other idea is to propose several randomizer. But this is
a bit tedious to implement (Maybe in the 2.6)

Anyway, I spent much time to clean and fix bugs of the website.
Hope that you like it ;)
Lieven
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Re:Rules for Blockout championship ?

Post by Lieven »

I like the three modes very much.
1. Normal
2. Weird
3. Intelligent (secret mode)

Maybe there is room for one more mode, one to complement Nr3, is
4. Fast mode

You would be given a fixed pitch, a given (infinite) sequence, but a limited time; say 2/3 minutes. Here not the score counts, but the number of blocks played. Nr 3 should probably be extended blocks and nr 4 basic or flat.

It is just an idea...

In any case, I think the championship should run sufficiently long (maybe a month/two months?). Also, I think they are quite a few people not checking the forum, or this website, as many people are still uploading scores from 2.3. Perhaps blockout should periodically check for updates/announcements from the website?


Lieven
gumby
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Re:Rules for Blockout championship ?

Post by gumby »

nice ideas... /me likes :woohoo:
jlp_38
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Re:Rules for Blockout championship ?

Post by jlp_38 »

Maybe there is room for one more mode, one to complement Nr3, is
4. Fast mode


Yes good idea, but with or without gravity ?

In any case, I think the championship should run sufficiently long (maybe a month/two months?)....

Yes you\'re right, I was thinking to 3 months.
Lieven
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Re:Rules for Blockout championship ?

Post by Lieven »

I would say with gravity, but either will do! :)
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Herc
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Re:Rules for Blockout championship ?

Post by Herc »

another mode proposal:

in classic tetris, there is a \"40lines\" mode.

the goal is to do 40 lines as fast as possible. an optimal candidate would be 3dmania for this, with the goal to make 40layers. no need for gravity, as the player must drop as fast as possible anyway. the score is simply the playing time (the lower, the better)<br><br>Post edited by: Herc, at: 2008/01/29 21:58
jlp_38
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Re:Rules for Blockout championship ?

Post by jlp_38 »

Yes an other great idea :)

Thank you very much for all these great ideas.
Next release is coming...
fredjust
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Re:Rules for Blockout championship ?

Post by fredjust »

and survivor mode :

start on level 9 or death and try to play as long as possible
jlp_38
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Re:Rules for Blockout championship ?

Post by jlp_38 »

in 3x3x6 Extended :laugh:
scblockout
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Re:Rules for Blockout championship ?

Post by scblockout »

Hi, I\'m a long-time Blockout fan (and Blockout II fan also!) and just registered in the site. Let me congratulate you all for your work!

The championship is a nice idea, but to solve the high scores issue (i.e. a few users that score very high and fill the list) I\'d prefer to have a ranking system.

Of course, if you want to be in the ranking you should create an account and upload your score under your username.

To build the ranking I\'d take the highest player\' score in a fixed period of time (may be variable: last month, last 2 months, last year...). As you know, Blockout is a very \"fair\" game in the sense that it is not possible to be \"extremely lucky\" and score (let\'s say) 200 000 points once if your typical high score is about 100 000. So I think that the highest player\' score is a good measure; and we should use only the more recent scores as in any sports ranking system.

The ranking should be elaborated for each one of the three standard playing modes.

It would be nice if you can ask for the player\' country when registering, so you could build a world ranking and local rankings for each country. Just a wish :)
jlp_38
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Re:Rules for Blockout championship ?

Post by jlp_38 »

Hi, I\'m a long-time Blockout fan (and Blockout II fan also!) and just registered in the site. Let me congratulate you all for your work!

Welcome to Blockout.net :)

To build the ranking I\'d take the highest player\' score in a fixed period of time (may be variable: last month, last 2 months, last year
...


Yes, this will be the case with the new score registration
procedure in the 2.5. Everyone will be able to upload as today
but the difference is that registered players will have access
to their game history and will be able to get stats over the
period they want. A new ranking system will also be availabe for
registered players only (last day,week,month,...,per country,...).
On demand, score made with a release <=2.4 can be attributed
to a registered player.

The championship mode is simply a new \"gameplay\" where (I hope)
even less experimented players can win the contests.

It would be nice if you can ask for the player\' country when registering, so you could build a world ranking and local rankings for each country

Yes that can be done. Thanks for the tip.
Ashot
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Re:Rules for Blockout championship ?

Post by Ashot »

Hi Blockout players,
I just read about Blockout championship proposals and I quite liked the whole idea. Though I\'m a bit late, I\'d like to tell my suggestions on the rules of championship. I liked the ideas about separate championship mode and single best result for each player to be taken for rankings. Separate registration with mentioning countries and statistics by country is also very nice idea.
However, I have different opinion about modes to play for the championship. I think it would be better to have several championships in different modes rather than combine all in total ranking, especially it would be good idea to separate \"classic\" Blockout modes from custom modes (fixed time, fixed blocks, no gravity, survivor mode etc.). Also it will be better to separate Flat, Basic and Extended modes, i.e. separate rankings for each mode. For example, for each mode (Flat, Basic and Extended) 3 random pits are chosen for each contest - 1 small, 1 medium, 1 large (by volume, as defined at www.blockout.de - small - 54-208 cubes, medium - 210-340 cubes, large - 343-882 cubes) and calculate combined score for three pits standardizing by highest score for each pit (i.e. 1st place gets 100%, others &#8211; proportionally). This way we will have three separate champions for each mode. The fourth mode could be as many suggested - 3 classic pits, and also some other modes could be added.
Or, otherwise, during a calendar year, several championships could take place - one with classic sets, another one for three modes separately (as I suggest), yet another one for custom modes.
This is just my opinion and I think it would be quite interesting to see different results and champions for different modes. I would like to hear your comments as well as criticism on my proposal.
Best Regards,
Ashot Harutyunyan.
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